This post was created in partnership with dentsu
From shrinking attention spans to an endless stream of mass-scale channels, today’s brands must maneuver through an ever-evolving media landscape.
A Brandweek 2025 session co-hosted with dentsu brought together Mike Law, North America CEO of Carat (a dentsu company), and Shivram Vaideeswaran, SVP of brand marketing for Papa Johns, to discuss media’s uncertain but exciting future.
Navigating media option overload
The discussion began with Law acknowledging today’s vast media opportunities as a growth driver. “I think in the last year what’s changed is you have so many scaled options, so many ways to reach consumers.”
In Vaideeswaran’s view, the choices fall into four buckets: paid media, creator media, aggregator media, and owned organic social. “You have to start looking at multiple different avenues as you’re starting to build out your media strategy,” he encouraged.
Vaideeswaran’s philosophy on ad dollars is simple: Don’t wait for someone to think about your product—meet them where their attention already is.
He explained that people aren’t thinking about pizza all day (even if he wishes they were). What they are thinking about: new sneaker drops, celebrity updates, their favorite teams, whatever is happening in culture at that moment.
From there, the strategy is to show up in those moments through creators who already have credibility in those spaces.
“Finding amazing content creators who are working in those spaces, and being able to integrate your brand into those moments starts to put you into places where they might not have been thinking about your product, and hopefully, connecting you back to those cultural moments,” shared Vaideeswaran. “Finding more of those moments where you can tap into their everyday life is so important.”
Delivering to customers mid-journey and in real time
Law compared the consumer journey to a bowl of spaghetti: “It’s just all kind of mixed together with different sauces and there’s no start and end point like there used to be.” In other words, brands must understand where a customer joins the journey and carry them through from that point. “It could be different for every impression that’s served,” he explained.
Timing also matters for optimizing real-time opportunities, said Vaideeswaran. He shared the example of Papa Johns jumping on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement within 24 hours.
“We looked at our loyalty program and gave rewards out to anyone named Taylor or Travis. And our incredible PR team got the message out into the world and was able to create buzz around a moment,” he said. “If we had waited another day or two, it would have been irrelevant. And I think that’s when you start looking like you’re a clout chaser.”